Aug 14, 2009 - Aw, boooo! I figured it was a matter of (probably short) time, but he replaced the pervy profile shown below this morning with a more neutral one that is inappropriate for a "Life is short. Have an affair." website. The new one doesn't sound like his writing either so I would have to guess Karol wrote it for him. Ah, well.


July 28, 2009. Dickly has been trolling for new victims on ashleymadison.com -- a site for married people wanting to have an affair. He has never been married so this is a new type of potential victim set to watch for.

There have been numerous other contacts with ol' Richard Carl Carll Vanceunebrouck Werth Vwerth on other dating sites for which I have complete text and profile copies... apparently they surf for info when they get into his web a ways, turn up this site and think I would like the info. This one was too complete (well, and kind of funny) to pass up, though it does make me want to poke my eyes out.

His full paying membership differs from his freebie membership on the freespiritsingles.com Scientology site, but as you can see he also has lots of great ratings from other members.:

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...so he had been busy on there. And as the person/profile he approached below was on a guest membership (instead of a paying membership like Richard's) that does mean that Richard "Cameron" had to have been the one to initiate contact as guests do not have that ability.

He has actually used the knight2remember name on other dating sites recently (see Romance Scams). knight2remember actually goes back for him a long way as an aol email address ... where he used to troll the chat rooms constantly. "Cameron" is an old documented alias as well... see Victim Stories (see David Chersky and the NuView debacle -- my apologies to David if this causes Dick to harass him yet again) or the handwriting comparitive on the Documentation page (the large signiture comparison photo towards the bottom).

I'm sure it will be a short time until he changes his profile or ends his membership. This is bound to go away because it is as personally telling as his statements to one event organizer that it was okay for him to be in the ladies dressing room at events because he was a "celibate monk."

You'll recognize his writing style.....

Knite 2 Remember

"Respectful ex-model, creative & discreet"

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Age: 46 (Leo)
Location: Seattle, Washington, United States
Height: 6'2" (188cm)
Weight: 190 lbs (86kg) - Fit

 

My Limits are: Undecided
Status: Attached Male seeking Females
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian (white)
Smoking Habits: Never

 

 [Note: this really IS a picture scanned off a romance novel cover. I thought the person who sent me this had to be kidding.Ladies... when they tell you they are models don't forget to get the issue date and look it up. <grin> What a pack of lies. He discusses his modeling career down towards the bottom of the text. If you are a romance novel fan please let me know if you have seen this cover. Would love to identify it. ~S  --- UPDATE 8/13/09 And the prize goes to Betty Bigelow's friend's book club! This cover is from Donna Fletcher's "Dark Warrior" published in 2004. Book is available on Amazon.]

 

Preferences and encounters I am open to:

By mutual agreement

Real, honest, meaningful communication and adventure is sought. Experienced, healthy, respectful, ex-model (yes, that image in the private photo gallery really is me) gentleman enjoys getting creative with those with an active imagination. I enjoy listening with care, while not being shy. I may be able to assist you repairing or deepening any relationship you're in, or helping you explore other options with discretion and respect. I also have several years experience behind the lens creating glamour imagery, and may be able to help you with a discreet and tasteful photo with savoire faire for your listing. I appreciate spirit, intelligence, wit, curiosity, creativity and aesthetics. My partner is terminally ill and chose her doctor over me so I'm attempting to adapt.

What really turns me on:

Discretion/Secrecy, Sense of Humor, Good Personal Hygiene, Has a Secret Love Nest, High Sex Drive, Imagination, Confidence

Mutual respectfulness

A woman who is fluid in earnestly and truthfully expressing herself and her needs is infinitely attractive, for me. I enjoy teaching and learning. I enjoy creative collaboration and spirituality as well as the sensual delights this world offers us. Aesthetics is a consideration in regards to sensuality, but spirit knows no confines. Escapism isn't what I optimally seek, as I feel it can only "turn someone on" for a very limited time, which may be just what they want. Optimally, though, I think it's better long term to determine what the true motivation is, and to address that whenever possible. I enjoy those who know the value of balance while occasionally exploring consentual "edge". "Victims" and overly compensating machismo women are not my cup of tea. Intelligence, the ability to feel and express it clearly, empathy, compassion, creativity, lucidity, eruditeness, ability to embrace both the light and shadow in us all, humor and lightheartedness, positive self-image are all facets of the jewel that attracts me, and I believe I pretty much offer the same - just in a differant physical form:) Whatever parameters are selected above, don't take them as extremes, absolutes or finalities. While I appreciate aesthetics and artful presentation, it's the spirit that moves me.

What I am looking for:

Travel, Picnics, Long Drives

Mutual respect for privacy

While the above focuses on sensuality and sexuality, I believe those things optimally arise from rapport and affinity borne from good communication with oneself, and the other person. Self honesty, and honesty with me is essential, as is Discretion - Discretion - Discretion :) What evolves is always a synthesis of the unique chemistries involved. Sexuality can be a fine means of communion, expression, release, communication - more, but sexuality isn't what I primarily seek. Respectful, discreet connection with a woman who is conscious and not projecting her animus onto me is definately of interest. If you're healthy in mind spirit and body, and are looking for an extraordinary connection in more than one way, you may enjoy contacting me. If you're looking for something quick and mindless, you should talk to my evil twin, Skippy:) I can give you his number:) He's into the passion of that on-fire, "first time" feeling and can be perceived as a bit of a rogue, with class. I am a professional, intelligent, attractive man (according to reports) with a public ID, so discretion and safety are absolute musts. I'm looking to connect with someone in my area, so please don't expect a lot unless you are within 100 miles or so of Seattle, unless something exceptional is what you have in mind. While aesthetics isn't an essential criteria, I WILL ONLY RESPOND TO, AND INITIATE COMMUNICATION with you if you have a PHOTO AVAILABLE INITIALLY. There are many reasons for this, which I'm glad to go into in detail, once communication commences. I glean a lot from your eyes. If you're concerned about privacy in that regard, it's possible to post an image in your private showcase for a very limited time, and then remove it. Auto-respond messages are not inspiring. Thank you for your time and kindness. I wish you success in finding what you seek:)

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Messages showing some of his tactics. Yep, Dick.... I really do get sent this stuff, and with a victim list as long as yours remember that there are plenty of people to send me their own pre-victim correspondence as well.

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Date:  Aug 9th - 1:57pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Profiles
Message:
Furthermore, my phone number should have shown up private. I had no intention on letting you have my number. Regardless, it turns out it must have been a glitch of some sort in the system that provided you with some random number.

Date:  Aug 9th - 1:18pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Solution
Message:
Well, again, it's funny because I drove by the Chinese restaurant when you didn't show up at the Thai restaurant (which is really close by on Main St.) and the only guy I saw in shorts matching your description was about 60 years old. I was expecting someone much younger and closer to my age. Had you provided me with your real picture perhaps this would not have happened! Solution: If you want to send me your real picture then maybe we'll go from there. LE


Date:  Aug 9th - 11:10am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Profiles
Message:
Hello Lady Em- You said you "also figured out how to make your profile invisible." This is a good skill to have. It can keep unwanted, bothersome people from causing trouble. Currently, I am only opening up my profile when I am communicating with someone constructively. Graduating from the confines of the little white AM box has been mentioned - which could make communication easier, better, quicker and increase the likelihood of understanding. Agree?


Date:  Aug 9th - 11:06am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Solution
Message:
Well, unfortunately it appears we both did the same thing: appear, wait, and were disappointed. I'm sorry you were disappointed. So was I. I too, appeared on time, at the appointed place, where an estate auction was occurring incidentally, and noted that the restaurant I had mentioned had changed to a Chinese place. I waited for 15 minutes. Although usually I would not call someone without their permission, I placed a call to the number you called me from, to see if we were missing each other or what happened. I got the "Camp Long" info line. Not comforting. I waited until 1:40. I would think that it would've occurred to you to simply call me if you weren't finding me. You didn't. That is also discomforting. Can you offer an explanation as to why you didn't call me? If you had, we likely would've realized that apparently we were at two different locations. The name of the place I was at matchd what you had indicated. I heard someone there speak of another such place nearby, but without being able to contact you by phone, could not confirm. I can understand that if you were at a similar place, and no-one showed, you might misconclude, as I did, that you were a no-show, which is about the highest ranking in rudeness in my book. But....it appears that we simply didn't have the location pinned down sufficiently, and we both erred. Errors happen. Misconcluding about the other person, from those errors, is not a good thing. So I retract any conclusion, and simply share with you that I was disappointed. If you can do similarly, then perhaps we can repair this misunderstanding. And repairing misunderstandings is an essential skill that often gets used in any relatinionship at whatever level. If it's more important to you to "be right" and "be hurt victim" : then we're not going to be able to get started in any regard anyway. So, it's now up to you:) I look forward to hearing from you as to why you didn't simply call me. Thanks.


Date:  Aug 9th - 4:39am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: No Show
Message:
I've also figured out how to make my profile invisible!


Date:  Aug 9th - 4:39am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: More than one?
Message:
I told you I was not that familiar with the place having been there only twice quite a while ago and you said specifically a Thai restaurant, I went back and forth and didn't see anyone that stood out or looked as if they were looking for me. I felt you stood me up or something came up and you couldn't make it so I went on my way. I will re-think this whole thing and maybe get back with you.


Date:  Aug 8th - 7:37pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  More than one?
Message:
No, next to the Edmonds Waterfront Antique Mall is a Chinese restaurant called Jade-something. Is there more than one waterfront antique mall?? Because you surely weren't at this one. Or are you just intentionally wasting my time?


Date:  Aug 8th - 7:18pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  No Show
Message:
Apparently you decided not to show, without even so much as the courtesy of a phone call. What are you going to do to make it up to me?


Date:  Aug 8th - 11:03am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: RE: RE: Reallllly?
Message:
Nice talking with you on the phone last night. I was pretty nervous and didn't know what to say but you made me feel comfortable. I think the name of the restaurant you want to meet in front of is the Thai Cottage, is that right? I'll see you shortly, at 1pm. Yours, LE


Conversation with Richard -- Richard (under the alias "Cameron") takes off to the office for a conversation with a woman met on a dating site for married people seeking affairs. Click "Conversation with Richard" for the mp3.

Note - Listen for Richard saying "adventuresomeness" three times while the woman tries to correct him by saying "advensturesome" correctly. Richard likes to show off his vocabulary, but usually he shows off real words. It IS possible the adding "ness" thing is some kind of Scientology pretend-word affectation.

Date:  Aug 7th - 6:24pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: RE: RE: Reallllly?
Message:
Hi Cam, My husband has gone off to a poker game. Apparently he's feeling pretty good tonight, on a Friday night, imagine that! Wish he had told me sooner. I'll call you tonight between 8 and 9 pm!!!! Yours, LE


Date:  Aug 7th - 5:09pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: RE: RE: Reallllly?
Message:
Hi, I'll call you tonight between 8 and 9 pm!!!! LE


Date:  Aug 7th - 12:51am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  RE: RE: Reallllly?
Message:
I appreciate your thoughts. I know the place in Edmonds. Since I didn't hear from you as you had indicated, I'm uncertain whats up. I'm available for a bit somewhere in the period between 4 and 9 PM. Saturday may be possible, but I cannot commit to it at present, without phone contact.

 

Date:  Aug 4th - 4:28pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Congratulations!
Message:
Congratulations "Lady Em" or "Crystal". I wish you and those involved great success with your project. Thanks for your interest. There's only one way for certain to determine any potential - and to rule out anything untoward about either of us, and that's to meet in person, as you're comfortable, and define. Tomorrow (Wednesday) I am available by phone in the evening after 8pm. 310 291 5653. I'm also available to meet in person, casually, and without expectations, for something informal like tea or lunch or later in the Seattle area Friday late afternoon and on. This weekend currently has a bit of time that can be made available as well. This is subject to change as we approach the weekend. If you're interested in emailing, let me know. The tedium, relative inaccessibility, and potential for problem people on AM are becoming considerable factors. I've recently had photos misused, so I am no longer sharing any with anyone not met in person. Its safer. And, I feel its essential, in the building of trust, for things to be pretty reciprocall and/or even. My profile tells you a lot. Yours doesn't. Your photo might tell me more than mine does. So I perceive we're pretty "even" there:) So, if you're into meeting someone new, with the intention of honoring each other, maintaining respect for privacy and the other things I mentioned in my profile, to explore the potential of a new acquaintance in whatever regard mutuality may occur, then give me a call. And again, ***Congratulations*** on your recent accomplishment. And remember: Warmth is directly inversely proportional to exclusive use of little white word boxes:) I look forward to a mutual attraction! Crystal


Date:  Aug 4th - 3:31pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  Finally...
Message:
It's over, what a relief. I think I did a superb job, if I must say so myself. We'll know soon. With that behind me I'm ready to focus on you. Please send me your real picture along with a time I can call you tomorrow. I think I still have the number written somewhere. I look forward to a mutual attraction! Crystal


Date:  Aug 3rd - 4:29pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  RE: RE: Got it
Message:
Best of success to you Lady Em.


Date:  Aug 3rd - 2:05pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Got it
Message:
Well, I'm good to go on my presentation for tomorrow. The day is almost over here and now I just need some down time and a bit more mental prepping. Wish me luck! Lady Em


Date:  Aug 1st - 1:52pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Got it
Message:
Understood. Definitely respected. Best of success with your project.


Date:  Aug 1st - 10:58am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Green Light
Message:
As I said before, I have a huge powerpoint presentation due and need to present it on Tuesday. I don't have time for fun and fantasies right now. I hope you would respect and understand this. LE


Date:  Jul 31st - 1:41pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Green Light
Message:
Dear Lady Em - I'm thinking of you too. It would be delightful if a phone chat could occur sooner rather than later. Lets make that happen Number One. Goal: determination of potential compatibility as established on phone, so as to meet in person, preferably this weekend. How does that sound to you? I welcome hearing more about you - your thoughts, feelings, how you perceive things, what you consider important, etc. I still feel that my profile is quite the open book in many regards, and that, if you read it, you know quite a bit about me, and of course I welcome the opportunity to share more with you as you're comfortable and trust has been established. I feel I know much less about you, and want to know more. Even more than "knowing about" I look forward to connecting outside of the confines of this strange little white box with actual speech (OMG!) and all other appropriate senses engaged:) Meeting before you depart is highly recommended :) If you're interested, and can call sometime in the next day (preferably today), do let me know. I'm enjoying our exchanges, and encourage expansion, so to speak. Were you planning on replying to my earlier questions? Are you curious about the words you've used that pique my interest? With Warmth, Cameron


Date:  Jul 30th - 10:48pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: <Reality>!
Message:
Ok, well I guess we'll wait until we talk. I've got a huge project coming up next week and have to present it back east on Tuesday. I'll call you from there or when I get back. In the mean time, stay well, and I'll think of you. Lady Em


Date:  Jul 30th - 6:23pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  <Reality>
Message:
Greetings "Lady Em" - Here's the deal - the only time you find out for sure that the other person is accurate in their representations is when you meet them in person. At that moment, you either find out they're who and what they said they were, or they're some 13 year old pimply-faced girl :) Truly. I have no idea if you're really who you say you are, or that you look like the photo you sent. Ultimately, right? So....one either is curious and adventurous enough to find out, in person, or they succumb to fear and doubt, or they remain emmeshed in the limitations of this little white box. We've both established we're curious and willing to talk and probably meet. I assure you, and will show you, that your comfort and safety are primary among my concerns initially. Would you really want it any other way? Likewise, my own comfort and safety are concerns to me. I'm not comfortable sharing any other photo at this time. I might change my mind if we speak on the phone. I think its essential to consider that creeps come in both genders. They really do. We all know about creepy men, and I support your wisdom in prudency in that regard. But please realize that there are most definitely creepy women too, so my circumspection is not unwillingness, or even secrecy. Its simply prudency. I've had photos of mine distorted and put in places and circumstances I would never approve of. So I'm cautious in the realm of visuals. If you can honor that, and understand it, I'll definitely do my best to protect your privacy, your safety and your honor as a human. If you insist on further photos at this time, then reluctantly, I'll just have to pass, and I thank you for the time, consideration and sharing we've already done. I look forward to getting past the fear, dealing with prudency and honesty, and then exploring where that might lead. With warm respect, C


Date:  Jul 30th - 9:18am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: RE: RE: Telephone
Message:
Why do you have a West Los Angeles prefix? Are you really in Seattle or am I being misled here? I hope you are real. Could you please send me a 'real' picture so I know you're not just some guy playing pranks? Thank you for your respectful cooperation, Crystal

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Date:Friday July 31, 2009 at 12:41pm

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Message:

Dear Lady Em -

I'm thinking of you too. It would be delightful if a phone chat could occur sooner rather than later. Lets make that happen Number One. Goal: determination of potential compatibility as established on phone, so as to meet in person, preferably this weekend. How does that sound to you?

I welcome hearing more about you - your thoughts, feelings, how you perceive things, what you consider important, etc. I still feel that my profile is quite the open book in many regards, and that, if you read it, you know quite a bit about me, and of course I welcome the opportunity to share more with you as you're comfortable and trust has been established. I feel I know much less about you, and want to know more. Even more than "knowing about" I look forward to connecting outside of the confines of this strange little white box with actual speech (OMG!) and all other appropriate senses engaged:)

Meeting before you depart is highly recommended :)

If you're interested, and can call sometime in the next day (preferably today), do let me know.

I'm enjoying our exchanges, and encourage expansion, so to speak.

Were you planning on replying to my earlier questions? Are you curious about the words you've used that pique my interest?

With Warmth,
Cameron

 

Date:  Jul 28th - 3:57pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Telephone
Message:
What a brilliant idea of yours Lady Em! Let's connect by phone :) Initially, its necessary to pre-arrange a **time** for a phone call. Is that alright by you? Minimally, a time slot is needed. Like "tonight after 9 but before 11" or "tomorrow morning between 8 and 10 am." Do you work during the day? For others? Keeping cool? Its HOT today! Warm wishes, Cameron


Date:  Jul 28th - 1:47pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Perhaps...WAY beyond the little white box ;)
Message:
Can't comfirm Sunday until we speak on the phone, right? What's your number, I'm more comfortable calling you for now. -LE


Date:  Jul 28th - 10:28am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Beyond the Little White Box
Message:
Dear "Lady Em" - Thanks for your email. Vocals and/or (which) instrument? I'm involved in music, among other things. We can likely relate on that subject. Good! My circumstances have changed some since the profile was written. Nothing fundamental. Just wanted you to know. Will clarify, should we meet in person. I'm not being secretive, just private, for the time being. Regarding aesthetics/physical: My physical appearance as depicted pictorally is of course, an artist's "version". As such, there are similarities, and differences. Also, my hair is shorter now than depicted. I'm still about 6'2" though, and h/w proportional. Just FYI and in the interest of full disclosure. I recommend we actually speak on the phone prior to making any "plans" to meet in person. I encourage you to share with me how and when that is most comfortable for you. I can keep this coming Sunday afternoon available for a couple of days maximum, as my time is currently heavily scheduled. I do many many things. Perhaps you'll consider replying to some of the questions I posed in my last message? Thank you. All I'm trying to do at this point is determine potential compatibility as platonic friends - pending mutual discussion regarding any other potentiality:) There are a few things in your profile I'd like to discuss with you. But again, I believe that is best done over the phone, or in person:) Beyond this Little White Box :) Thank you for your kindness and consideration. Warm wishes, Cameron .


Date:  Jul 28th - 7:14am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Thorns Be Not :)
Message:
In my younger years, I was in an all girls garage band. We modeled ourselves after the Bangles-lol. I still like all that 80's music although today my taste includes more to the likes of Josh Groban and Andrea Boccelli. I've been thinking about our fantasy drive and picnic. I'll be Lady Em (short for Emily) and you can be ??? Picking up from the Romance Novel Theme, of course. I may have some time to call you next week and we can pick a date. My schedule is pretty limited but I might have next Sunday afternoon available or perhaps even Monday afternoon, if I can rearrange a few things. I'd like to discuss more detail of what we might "do" :) Well, off to work for now.


Date:  Jul 26th - 7:31pm
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Thorns Be Not :)
Message:
Thank you for the kindness of your reply. Well good, I'm glad you're on board after all :) And yes, I definitely am interested in taking things slowly. I'm far more interested in building things of consequence than wasting anyone's time. Shall we use pseudonyms? If so, what shall you be called? (Perhaps not "Crystal" - given the association :) The ex-modeling thing isn't something that currently interests me. I mentioned it only within the context of assuring you that I was no ogre, so the physical component of aesthetics could be dispatched quickly. I didn't model because of ego, so I don't recall the specifics at the moment, although I do remember I was in GQ magazine more than once. No big deal. I'm far better behind the camera than in front of it anyway. I certainly hope you weren't TOO familiar with those romance novels:) I remember them as "April, wild and petulant and highly intelligent, KNEW, deep down, she had to be TAMED, when Jason's muscular arms took her up by surprise - she KNEW she had to POSESS him at ANY cost!" LOL I share your affection of music and spirituality. Tell me more please. What gives you your greatest joy? Share with me the optimum scenario, in regards to what you seek by being on AM. After all, I wrote a veritable treatise next to your taciturn succinctness! (in your profile). Please consider sharing with me what specifics in my profile caught your attention. If you'de like, I'll reciprocate. Prostate cancer chemo is not usually the end of the world in any regard, so perhaps patience is waranted? The size of your breasts is of no consequence, so not to worry. It is not physicality that drives me to communicate with you. Are you more comfortable calling me, or do you prefer me calling you? I'm comfortable with arranging a picnic and drive. I am able to determine my schedule to a substantial degree. Thank you for your interest, kind consideration, and I welcome your warm communicative style :)


Date:  Jul 26th - 3:26pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: RE: Romance
Message:
Well of course I can. I am interested in your profile because you seem to be willing to take things slowly at first. You sound caring and compassionate, but of course, with an ailing wife it's a must. I'm in a similar situation that my husband just finished his chemotherapy for prostate cancer. We think he'll be fine but life's been miserable around here. As far as the name Crystal Cove, it's where we went for our honeymoon. A wonderful bed and breakfast resort in Branson, Missouri. The cabins are themed and very luxurious. Now about my picture, you might think my breasts are small and I'm not comfortable putting myself out there right now. What is the name of the book or books that feature you on the cover, I was a big fan of romance novels in my 20's so perhaps I've read them! I would be interested in speaking with you via telephone when I feel I can get away and use it privately (not in my home). I'm also interested in maybe a long drive and a picnic, too, for starters.


Date:  Jul 26th - 9:43am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  RE: Romance
Message:
I'm very real, I assure you:) Should you wish, let's talk on the phone for a bit. Perhaps that will assist getting us past this uncomfortable point. I understand and appreciate your scepticism. I share it, borne from experience. But its essential to try a little harder not to jump to misconclusions, if we're to expand and learn. I can do that. Can you? ;)


Date:  Jul 26th - 9:39am
From:  Knite 2 Remember
Subject:  Surprised?
Message:
Thanks for your notes. As my profile truthfully stated, I'm an ex-model and have posed for romance novels in the past. Although the artist takes liberties to some degree, the similarities to reality are definitely there, and certainly as accurately representational as your "head shot" that doesn't show your entire body. (Not that that would be appropriate, mind you, at this point:) But the point is that building trust is largely borne from prudent sharing, and respecting. And just as you have done, with a partial picture, you're sharing incrementally, as am I, which is wise, initially. I *would* like to "see" an image of one sort or another, that depicts you from top to bottom - so to speak :) At any rate, many would find your physical form (as depicted by whats visible in your head shot) quite attractive, and many would find me likewise. So with that basic out of the way, perhaps it will be worthwhile to begin persuing the more important things and commonalities that we express in our profiles? Game? Able? I have no reason or time to mislead you. But you can only find that out for yourself if you consider **reading** my profile a bit more carefully (i.e. - the photo requirement and the ex-model thing). I would like to move on to discuss the areas of potential compatibility our profiles suggest. I look forward to hearing about your feelings and thoughts on those subjects, and more. May I inquire as to what the significance of "Crystal Cove" is? Thank you very much for your consideration and time:)


Date:  Jul 26th - 8:46am
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  Romance
Message:
Your uploaded picture has been spotted on the cover of a romance novel, I'm disappointed in you. I was hoping to speak with you in person. Although your digital imagery was lovely and worth the fantasy. I am looking for someone real. Thanks anyway.


Date:  Jul 25th - 7:48pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: The Rose Amongst the Thorns? :)
Message:
yes, laughable


Date:  Jul 25th - 7:46pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: The Rose Amongst the Thorns? :)
Message:
Well guns or roses, what difference does it make. I don't believe that picture is you. At least the guy with the gun looked real!


Date:  Jul 25th - 7:44pm
From:  crystalcove
Subject:  RE: Access to Private Showcase Attached. Please click the "key" icon.
Message:
Well, I may have been born at night, but not last night. You question whether my picture is real and then you send me some fairy tale picture? Thanks but no thanks, I knew something was up with the guys here.